W.E. Editorial Digest: Published authors v. Hubbers
61How good are you, really?
Over the past few months, I have had the opportunity to edit four novels, which all had one thing in common: They were going to be published. This was a fact, since they had already been accepted by the publisher prior to the manuscripts being sent to me.
Working at these soon-to-be-published manuscripts has given me some insights into the standards required by the industry. First, let me try to describe those standards. Then let me try to compare what I have seen to the standards of writers here on HubPages.
Editing four novels
The editing required varied a good deal, from essentially thorough proofreading, to constructive criticism, to a straight line edit, to extensive critique-revision-editing.
All four novels had that in common that they were well-considered, the result of hard work over a period of time. All four works seemed coherent as far as their plot and storyline. However, their technical quality varied considerably.
The first book basically required extensive proofreading, which also included “streamlining” to economize and make the narrative flow much better. Redundant words were removed, and repetitive words were replaced with synonyms. Some – but not too many – sentences were revised for clarity. Such a 100,000 word manuscript consumed one week of editing time.
The second book, a short novel written in a light tone (presumably for a young audience), required little more than thorough proofreading. Add to this, however, some instruction given to the author on how to get rid of bad habits. Double spaces, even triple spaces after period just isn't right, nowadays. Also, I was astonished to find many examples where the author wrote like this: “I agree.” She said – instead of: “I agree,” she said.
The third book, a fairly long novel with a drama-oriented, psychological theme and plot, required a thorough edit. I was surprised by how much the quality varied in different parts of the manuscript. This was easy to detect, simply because some parts went so much slower than did others. Sometimes, it was like cruising down the freeway, at other times like walking on a beach.
The fourth book, a novella of about 35,000 words, should never have been accepted for publication in the first place. I provided a free critique, which motivated the author to turn a nearly incomprehensible script-style manuscript into something resembling a short novel. Then followed an in-depth critique and editing process over just 1 week, which lead to a much cleaner manuscript, further last-minute critique and then revisions by the author, and a final edit of the fresh materials.
These books all had merit. In their present, edited form they are all worthwhile reading, in my opinion. I would not mind buying a copy, giving copies as gifts to the right person, and even recommending these works. But without the critique, proofreading, edits, and revisions, none of them were nearly good enough to be published.
The writers on HubPages and Novelty Fiction
The creative writers on HubPages, many of whom I have been able to support and interact with through Novelty Fiction's private network, have similar talents as the authors mentioned above. Many people write surprisingly well. The difficulties tend to set in when going from short fiction to novella-or-novel length manuscripts. Here, the craft that it takes to compose a novel becomes a real challenge.
In practice, this means that some of the writers on HubPages and Novelty Fiction's network are set to get published right now, albeit some editorial assistance will be required. Others need to work with an editor-mentor for a period of time. I believe that there are several people, maybe a dozen or more, who can get published within a foreseeable period of time given the right attitude, discipline, and supportive environment.
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There are those who write so well that they could write about anything and it will be interesting. These authors are talented. Throw in imagination and woah we got a gourmet banquet to be had.
I am currently reading the Soldier Son trilogy by Robin Hobb - a lady writer that writes fantasy who hails across the pond in the good old USA. She writes like this, seven chapters on one book were dedicated to the way we look at fatness and I was captivated.
I enjoyed your hub as usual WE and I will give a review soon either on Novelty Fiction or here on HubPages regarding this author when I have read all three books.
W.E., I have been wondering where you were as I have not seen you in the forums lately. Good to see you here. I would really like your opinion on something and was wondering if it would be alright to contact you.
I found your hub quite useful and need to go do a few edits.
I can personally attest to the difficulty of expanding a novella to a full novel without using a lot of dull filler material or spoiling the original story line.
Great points.
Great information! Much appreciated by those of us currently editing.
Wonderful hub. Very informative and helpful.
I always try to self edit my own work as much as possible, I find I quite enjoy it and I feel it helps me grow as an author. Novel length works don't seem to be a problem for me, my trouble is keeping things to a reasonable word count!
Straight and to the point as always. I can only say that you have been a great inspiration and a wonderful mentor. Thank you W.E.!!
I do my own editing as it is a matter of being a one man show here. Write, edit, and sell. I did have one Hubber who was kind enough to read one of my works and did a proof reading thing as she went along and was helpful. This was nice to see the inside scoop from a pro editor. For me, it is a year or two on a single novel, going over and over it until I'm happy with it. Thank you
I can see why you have been so busy WE. The practical stuff, like editing etc, can be such a bore to many writers. Unfortunately, it is a necessary evil. Interesting hub - well done!
Hub Pages is one of many online publishing venues. Everyone here is a published author in that sense. (For the record, I have published two books of non-fiction, one of which had excellent editorial support from the publisher and the second of which didn't even enjoy the services of a competent typesetter.)
I think the distinction you want to make is not so much between Hubbers who are worthy of publication and those who aren't as between authors who publish through a commercial or academic publisher and those who go to a vanity publisher.
At least for the people I follow, the basic level of writing I see here is very good. The self-editing is sometimes really awful. All the same, the "editing" I encounter on some other online sites is seldom helpful at all.
I'm trying to turn myself from an academic author into an author who appeals to a more general audience. I could use a good critique on how well I have succeeded, but at least I know grammar, syntax, spelling, and punctuation!
Even though I'm nitpicking with your hub a little bit, your description of the editing you have done for things already accepted by commercial publishers should be an eye-opener for many. I hope it gets a lot of readership from HubPages and beyond. Voted up and useful.
Yes, you know, I've been published many times, mostly poetry, and I have a low score as well as not making $ here. I invite you to look at my stuff. It's pretty good.
I find, and I know this is severely rude, that Hubpages is an underachiever's wet dream. I'm sorry, but I see these ungodly high scores for **** I would never read, and hundreds of followers for those who can't write a poem that doesn't rhyme. Who to blame? Google? Who would not have Sylvia Plath, Catcher in the Rye, Virginia Woolf, because their content isn't fluffy sheep and puffy cloud pastimes? If wretchedly happy wretched writers are rewarded for their "great attitude", and less happy writers are punished for content, well then, All I have to say, is this is where I keep my hard copy, not my heart, or my checkbook. lily
As a beginner... only written one short story so far... I have found the tips you give in your hubs extremely useful. There are a few good hubs giving tips on hubpages and I am grateful for all the tips I read.
I certainly took on board your cooments re bad habits.
A very useful hub thank you



















Christopher Dapo Level 3 Commenter 8 months ago
Nice hub! Thanks for a glimpse at editing as well as the insightful tips, very useful things to consider being a writer.
- Christopher Dapo